but it's education, you know? >> john: yeah, it's education, love acceptance and it's like really? you really think that -- this poor friend of yours, his sister really thought that her brother was going to take advantage of her baby -- >> caller: he sister's husband. >> john: but she allowed it to go on. and it's tragic. and if any gay person ever does interfere with a child, they deserve the full force of the law -- >> just like any straight person. >> john: exactly. and no one is worried about straight people despite the fact that every society that keeps records, the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual identified males. >> caller: that's true. and my son is one of the most tolerant people i have ever met. >> john: that's great. carolyn is calling from michigan with a somewhat different point of view. >> caller: good morning, i just heard the last caller and i heard the caller before, and i think you guys were a little haron him. i understand -- and i definitely myself am not homophobic but when you are talking about children -- you know, i would -- >> john: you